Posts by Pete Zahut

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Clapping and singing in Conventions... like the evangelicals??

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

https://www.facebook.com/traslapados/videos/1470101566382318/?hc_ref=otherwhat do you think of this video?.

do you think they're imitating evangelicals?is this happening in other places?

?.

Pete Zahut

@PeteZaHut, but why do you think the JWs in the 40 plus age group don't see the irony of it all? (I know why, but still!)

I think it's a case of not seeing the forest for the trees (or a case of not wanting to see it)

It's like aging or seeing a child grow. You only notice the difference in the person when you've been away from them for a time. We are seeing these changes from a distance, for current JW's the changes have been subtle enough and gradual enough and (fun enough) that the ones who are in it for social reasons or other non fact based reasons, have drifted into them somewhat seamlessly.

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Help/Advice on Birthday Present

by Phizzy in

jw
friends

i have a very xjw type problem, i am invited to my cousin's 70th birthday party, and really don't know what to buy him.. i only met him a couple of months ago, as my jw parents never encouraged the non-jw side of the family, so i don't know much about him, except that he is retired and his hobby is sailing his boat.. i don't have contact details for his kids etc to ask them for ideas, so could you come up with something please ?

not too extravagant, i am a poor pensioner !

but, it is his 70th.. thanks in advance for any tips !.

Pete Zahut

I recently received a $50 gift card for Starbucks coffee. I have really enjoyed it.

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My story...

by ironsnake656 in

i would like to share my brief experience about my life from liberal jw to a ex-jw.

as i told you in my first post, i'm from juarez, mexico.

i'm second generation born-in, well not really... my mother knew jwland in 1968 and a year later, she got baptized.

Pete Zahut

Hola Ironsnake,

Thank you for sharing your story. We're glad you made it through your own personal "crisis of conscience" and thanks to your education in human psychology, were able to find your way back to a healthy state of mind. Most JW's use the societies literature as their guide through these kinds of problems and end up prolonging their suffering and even dying.

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Recovery From The Jehovah's Witnesses - A Guide

by pale.emperor in

hey guys.

a friend online asked me about my recovery and how i managed to recover relatively easily from watchtower indoctrination.

although i think a major part of it is acquainting oneself with information about the watchtower and it's history, a lot of it (for me at least) was an inner game.

Pete Zahut

Nicely Put !

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Clapping and singing in Conventions... like the evangelicals??

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

https://www.facebook.com/traslapados/videos/1470101566382318/?hc_ref=otherwhat do you think of this video?.

do you think they're imitating evangelicals?is this happening in other places?

?.

Pete Zahut

If your a man of Caucasian race

and have hair upon your face,

you're not valued in our lovely Kingdom Hall.

We say we care about your heart,

but you too must look the part,

before you can become God's friend.

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Clapping and singing in Conventions... like the evangelicals??

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

https://www.facebook.com/traslapados/videos/1470101566382318/?hc_ref=otherwhat do you think of this video?.

do you think they're imitating evangelicals?is this happening in other places?

?.

Pete Zahut

I think it's a nice change myself and it would have been nice if things were this way for those of us who grew up as JW's. The only thing that bothers me is that they used to say this kind of thing was inappropriate and they could show you scriptures to show the importance of being "serious minded" and "reverent" in our worship to Jehovah.

It also bothers me that they make these changes but never apologize for having spoiled our fun and for condemning other religions for doing this very thing. They never even mention the fact that these things were frowned upon in the past.

LIke so much of my life as a JW in the past, it's as if it never happened....never even mattered.

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Clapping and singing in Conventions... like the evangelicals??

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

https://www.facebook.com/traslapados/videos/1470101566382318/?hc_ref=otherwhat do you think of this video?.

do you think they're imitating evangelicals?is this happening in other places?

?.

Pete Zahut

I think my wife and I used to make out to that Kingdom Song before we were married. LOL !

Remember back in the day when they could show you scriptures that showed how anything that was fun or joyful...was wrong and our worship had to be reverent ? My how things have changed, even though the bible and the scriptures they used back then, have remained the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSCUhqsy4Nk

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We are like pet dogs that run off with wild dogs...

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

...and need a bullet to the head.

my wife found a post on instagram where some jw nutter claims that either lett or morris said this in a talk.

any confirmation or video of such?

Pete Zahut

Too bad the farmers dog ran off with wild dogs who were interested in doing destructive things.

Moral of the story, when you leave the "pack" be sure and find others who are interested in living a positive lifestyle.

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My Introduction

by Ray Frankz in

this is my first post and i'm feeling like i'm doing something bad big time!

i know on my mind it isn't, but the feelings are less manageable.. well, since i'm still a jw it's better not to give too much info, but i'm from brazil.. i've grown-up in the religion and practicly all my family, my closest friends and my girlfriend are loyal jws.

i used to be a regular pioneer but i still have a service privilege on my congregation.. i've had questions about the teachings of the wt since i was 10, but naturally i always pushed it away as it were "questioning the holy organization".. i started a friendship with some people in a course i took and we talked about a lot of subjects.

Pete Zahut

Welcome and thanks for sharing your story. This is not emergency and you are under no time constraint in terms of making a decision one way or another. Take a "wait and see" attitude and enjoy the ride.

Ray Franz was my instructor at Bethel and I used to sit by him at meals. He was the epitome of what a Christian should be. I knew back then that something was bothering him and wasn't surprised when he left a few years later. I read his books and you can take it from me, every word of his writings are honest and true and his portrayal of what went on at Bethel in those days, is spot on.

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Tacoma Dome Conventions

by Lynnie in

so i went to visit my jw aging mother this week (i've been df'd for 40 years) and she told me she needs to give the people who are taking her to the convention $10 each day of the convention to cover gas?

my uber elder cousin told her she needs to do this!!!

wtf?

Pete Zahut

Seems to me we used to make sure the elderly were taken care of and nobody would have ever charged them for gas especially since they were going there anyway. Can't imaging what kind of tight wad would charge an elderly person to take them to the assembly. Taking care of the elderly used to be a basic tenet of the religion. Then again, when it comes to money, there's a grab going on from the top down. We found out that Bethel sent my 84 year old mother in law (with dementia) a brochure encouraging her to give her home and savings to the Watchtower and they'd let her stay in it until she died. Luckily my Elder Bro in Law put a stop to that. There's no way he'd let even his beloved Watchtower, get their hands on money that could one day soon be his.

Remember the big Tacoma Dome "parking scam" that was discovered a few years back? People were being charged for parking at the Dome each day even though the dome rental included all of the parking? What a scam that was. I think it cost us around $50 to park for the assembly at the Dome, you had to have these paper parking tickets.

Did you ever get your Mother's house situation straightened out or is she still doing a reverse mortgage thanks to those JW scammers who swindled her out of it a few years ago?